The energetic elementary principal in San Antonio has tripled the enrollment at St. Mary Magdalene.

Dr. Uhl interviews Terry Shields, the Executive Director of the Nativity Miguel Coalition.  They discuss the innovative Nativity/Miguel model and the impact the schools have had on Catholic education.

Mary Beth Mueller, the longtime superintendent of the vibrant Diocese of Phoenix schools, offers wisdom for emerging Catholic administrators and thoughts on the challenges and successes of Catholic schools in Phoenix.

In lucky episode #13, Chris Mominey, the COO and Secretary for Education in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, discusses the innovative governance models and the successes within his archdiocese.  Mominey also discusses his work toward changing the culture of the Catholic schools toward a growth mindset.